In this interview Kim and Gabriela talk about the balance between understanding poetry and not over-analyzing a poem. They discuss why the way we are taught to read poetry in school can turn us off from poetry. They also talk about how to know when to zoom in and unpack a poem versus when to let the poem speak for itself. Kim shares insights into her writing process and how she uses that to help her students as well. Finally, they talk about how voice can be a vehicle for tying things together in a poem.